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Chris Spangle and Rhinehold sit down with longtime Libertarian Party leaders Joe Hauptmann, Steve Dasbach, and Mark Rutherford to discuss the cycles of infighting from the Dallas Accords to the present. Things seem bad in the party. Is this new? Or are the current players just new faces in the same play? We look to history to learn more. We also discuss the purpose of the Libertarian Party and our guests give a defense for its existence.